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Mensaje  eliment Dom Mar 29, 2015 10:39 pm

There is one problem they cut down one tree for a tiny amount of oil so there isn't going to be many trees to last to keep them in a life long living. There is other things they can be doing to make a better living what's more long lasting. Look at your coco farmers. they are done in warm countries the same for coffee and tea, they are sold world wide helping them have a better living as the taste of the tea and coffee will be effected on how they are roasted plus what nutrients are in the ground.  They loose the trees they have no shelter as a lot of the workers live in the forests themselves, meaning there homes won't be as water tight. Plus they will run out of food what they are use to eating. They use the palm leaves to make there houses, baskets and a few other things so there other sours of income has gone as well. No extra cash or something to trade they can't get everything they need to survive.

Plus on top of that most people think it's from the leaves and not cutting down the whole tree for a tiny amount. So everyone needs to be educated on how it's made so they can make there mind up. Grape seed oil is cheaper them palm oil in the supermarkets. For cooking oil. Palm oil is over £2, olive oil and grape seed is around about £1 depending on the make. Oilve farmers have to watch there crops as olive trees need to rest for a whole year every 2 or 3 years. Find that out my uncle is coming over Tuesday, he is the first English olive farmer on Cufew Island.
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Mensaje  eliment Dom Mar 29, 2015 11:57 pm

Since easter is this coming weekend here is some decorating idea's for you

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Mensaje  Verax Lun Mar 30, 2015 12:15 am

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Plus on top of that most people think it's from the leaves and not cutting down the whole tree for a tiny amount. So everyone needs to be educated on how it's made so they can make there mind up. Grape seed oil is cheaper them palm oil in the supermarkets. For cooking oil. Palm oil is over £2, olive oil and grape seed is around about £1 depending on the make. Oilve farmers have to watch there crops as olive trees need to rest for a whole year every 2 or 3 years. Find that out my uncle is coming over Tuesday, he is the first English olive farmer on Cufew Island.

Did you even read what I wrote?
The reason why all this is happening is not palm oil. The reason why this happens is because greedy, unethical marketers are taking advantage of uneducated people. Do you think a palm oil farmer who only acts on his instinct of survival knows about those consequences? They literally work their @$$ off in order to survive/life, and even then it can be questioned if that can be called a life or not.

And here we are, demanding lower prices on just about everything. And well, the prices on food should be lower, but in a different way. See, when huge food stores buys food, they buy it at low prices. Say they buy a huge shipment 1000 apples for 250$. That would be 0,25$ per apple. However, the food store sells the apples for 1$ each, and gain a profit of 0,75$ every apple. Considering how many millions huge food brands/stores makes every year, it would not be a problem at all to sell those apples at 0,5$ each. They would still make more than enough profit, and we would get cheaper food.

However, the way it really works today is that when we demand lower prices, the food stores tells their apple supplier that: "Hey, I give you 100$ for 1000 apples instead of 250$. If you say no, then you can have your apples for yourself." And this works, because if those 1000 apples doesn't get sold, the suppliers won't make any money at all (less money is better than no money at all). The food stores gives 0,1$ per apple now, instead of 0,25$. If they still want to make 0,75$ profit per apple, the can sell apples for 0,85$ per. We now have cheaper apples. However, even here the food stores tend to sell apples for 0,9$ for EVEN MORE profit.

So instead of actually acting ethical, fair and honest with prices, they instead squeeze every coin out of uneducated farmers in countries like china etc. So the problem is really marketers. The farmers only does what they can in order to survive, as they don't know any other way to survive than chopping down huge quantities of palm trees in order to provide enough palm oil to make enough cash. Because when they have to deliver cheaper palm oil, they compensate it with chopping more trees. Which makes sense.

So as you can see, the problem isn't the palm oil. The roots of the problem comes from marketers. So making people boycotting palm oil only makes the situation for the palm oil farmers even worse, and they will have an even harder time to survive. I believe that if we are to fix this problem, someone have to start a riot or something against the huge food brands and they way they are pricing their stuff. So if you are to educate people on how palm oil is made, please don't put palm oil farmers as the ones to blame, because they are only surviving (barely). Because the truth is that marketers are the ones to blame.
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Mensaje  eliment Lun Mar 30, 2015 1:57 am

I know how it works in the stores our farmers are calling out for a better price they can barley afored to feed the animals and the way things are going up in price they won't be able to feed there animals. Farmers more exact dary farmers are not earning enough money for them to live off as they are scratching the barrel to feed there cows. They are begging for prices to come up but the government won't let it happen because others will starve. As farmers pointed out you are paying a triple the price for water compared to the price of milk. To break even the farmers need to make an extra 5-10p more than what they are getting. Depending on the type of milk plus there farm size.

And your a little wrong if companies stop using the product there is no need for anyone to be destroying the forest protecting the land meaning there will be more land what they can use for farming as the soil will be getting the nurturance it needs into the soil, plus less floods and land slides as the trees will be drinking up the water in the ground. On top of that people and animals will be saves as habitats will be no longer vanishing. People need to stop getting things they see the word Palm on the back, they way the companies will be getting less profit meaning they will have to stop using the ingredient all together. That reminds me I need to go into facebook and do a complains about sainsburys since it's in there cheese and onion pie. (One of the large supermarkets)
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Mensaje  Verax Lun Mar 30, 2015 2:56 pm

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And your a little wrong if companies stop using the product there is no need for anyone to be destroying the forest protecting the land meaning there will be more land what they can use for farming as the soil will be getting the nurturance it needs into the soil, plus less floods and land slides as the trees will be drinking up the water in the ground. On top of that people and animals will be saves as habitats will be no longer vanishing. People need to stop getting things they see the word Palm on the back, they way the companies will be getting less profit meaning they will have to stop using the ingredient all together. That reminds me I need to go into facebook and do a complains about sainsburys since it's in there cheese and onion pie. (One of the large supermarkets)

If you go a little deeper than the surface, you will understand that companies won't stop using palm oil yet. Look, most people won't stop buying products with palm oil in it. Because people will buy products with palm oil in it if it is the only alternative. The food brands are the ones who decide what products to have in their stores after all. And, they won't just stop using it as an ingredient if they get less profit.
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Mensaje  eliment Lun Mar 30, 2015 5:42 pm

Religion is one reason why some companies are using it. They only added it when they were complaining that all companies needed to make foods for them and get rid of one ingredient. The problem is some companies are fighting back and adding that ingredient they are getting told not to add to let the radicals or what ever you want to call them. Most religions have had them throw out history. For the medieval times Britain it was the Catholics. There torcher tequneic was so effective it's still used today in the army. What is a disturbing thought considering the history of them times. Of course the list goes on if you go throw the history of every signal religion and culture what ever existed. Just with human rights laws things are less violent, most of the time. So yer I know no matter what our bleaves, culture or country we are apart of they are all as bad as one another at some point in history. And all have some what have carried on with the old ways. So yes I know it's a small % of each of the groups and not the whole thing. But it only takes a small amount to make a big different. Look at St Gorge he wasn't even English and he put down his sward and refused to fight any more in the name of Christianity, got him killed, it changed out country from that one act, also the reason why out country has a red cross.

There is many brands of different products and you can refuse to shop in a store if they support it all.
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Mensaje  eliment Lun Mar 30, 2015 6:17 pm

A bit of history for you.
Gelatine use to be made from animal bones.
I know they use to do it in the Victorian times, not sure when they stopped using it to a different method.


Coffee creams
ingredients

makes approx. 24

1 egg white
450 g (1 lb) icing sugar
30 ml (2 tbsp) coffee essence, or extra strong instant coffee

method

1. Beat the egg white until frothy but not stiff. Sift the icing sugar into a bowl and mix with enough of the egg white to make a firm paste.

2. Add the coffee essence, mix and knead together. Roll out on a board well dusted with icing sugar and cut into small circles.

3. Transfer onto waxed paper and leave overnight until set and firm to the touch.  

(Hoping to make soon so will be able to say how it works out)
Got it from
http://www.cookitsimply.com/recipe-0010-0w8906.html
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Mensaje  eliment Sáb Abr 25, 2015 5:37 pm

CHOCOLATE BUTTONS/LOLLY'S

It's something what chocolate shops do and they can be quite expensive.

Get a spoon and poor chocolate onto a peace of parchment paper, make a circle add fruit and or nuts, seeds what ever is the fravert thing. Also you can use it as decoration for what ever you make plus turn them into chocolate lolly pops. tie a small ribbon to them and it will look like something you get from the shops.

To turn them into lollies just gentility place them at one and of the lolly and add some extra chocolate on top befoure adding your topping.
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Mensaje  Musa_Eyre Dom Abr 26, 2015 1:11 am

Cool! Is there like, any mint cakes or something?
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